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Hardcore World First! Kripparrian Downs Diablo - Update: Videos!


Here are videos from both PoVs of the entire Diablo hardcore Inferno kill:

It seems Bashiok was speaking too soon; when he actually got a hold of some facts he tweeted this:

My apologies Kripp and Krippi, looks like you were 1st HC Inferno clear. (my spreadsheet deciphering isn't what it used to be) Congrats!

So there you have it, approved and confirmed by Blizzard, Kripparrian and Krippi got the World First Hardcore Diablo kill and clear! Repeated congratulations!

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Earlier today, Kripparrian managed to down Diablo on Hardcore. He's the first one to come out and say publically so and so there was a lot of speculation on whether it was a World First or not, but Bashiok tweeted that that might not be the case:

"People think that was the first HC Inferno clear? Weird. Webcams r 2 legit 2 quit. hay HAY"
"We don't publicly announce/recognize world firsts. I'm just surprised that was the first one that was publicized."
"Could be! It's an accomplishment regardless of if it's the first. I was honestly surprised no one else stepped forward."

With the specific nature of Diablo 3's quest and act setup it's been pointed out that perhaps these other people didn't come forward because of skipping acts with bugs or just joining another's game etc., but Bashiok seems certain that it was cleared on Hardcore before. Regardless of all that it is still a huge accomplishment and we heartily congratulate Kripparrian on it.



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    Kerrag 2012-06-20 06:58:56 UTC — iam a bit disappointed only 2 Sites of "Mimimi iam way better because i play wow and diablo sucks anyway because iam dieng in act 2 inferno" Big Thumb Up for Kripp and Krippi great achievment!
  3. Torga's avatar
    Torga 2012-06-20 03:46:44 UTC — o and i want to rephrase something. It is a great gaming achievement to kill diablo hardcore but not so much in terms of race simply because the game is asking to be exploited, therefore there was no common rules for a race. Without proper competition a world first anything (like i was world first in jessica's vagina) is not that impressive
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    Torga 2012-06-20 03:23:23 UTC — I mentionned WoW as an example and contrast to what to me impressive gaming achievement is versus not impressive in my book. I believe those who are the most impressed with hardcore diablo progression are those who didn't play it. They remember dying a lot on softcore - but the truth is hardcore is a different playstyle, a safe and difficulty avoiding playstyle wich makes it strangely less challenging than going undergeared facing elites with horrible combinations. But sure there is always a chance to fail and you must not panic when death is close
  5. Starym's avatar
    Starym 2012-06-20 02:14:56 UTC — Regardless what you might think of Diablo as compared to WoW etc, you really can't diss the commitment it takes to do Hardcore first, I mean it's the definition of a "race" as there's a real danger of failing if you go too fast, whereas there isn't that element in WoW. Also all this comparing isn't really healthy or justified, Diablo is its own game and the two of them achieved what they did within that game and that community, why you gotta bring WoW into it dawg! :D



    On a sidenote I can NOT believe Bashiok's idiocy on this one, he basically publicly stated that this wasn't a WF completely out of thin air (even though he hedged at first), because it was SO hard to wait until he actually had any facts in front of him... That kind of unprofessional behavior is seriously wrong, I mean how often is it that any Blizz employee even TALKS about any WF in their games, let alone put it into doubt...
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    Torga 2012-06-20 01:24:02 UTC — Not to hate on the guy, but i do'nt see diablo 3 as a game where it makes sense to talk and praise about world first.



    I care about say ragnaros heroic world first because it takes skill, dedication, coordination, min/maxing to the limit, knowledge of the game, clever strategy and very few people are able to compete for it because of the level of those things that it requires.



    On the other hand, diablo skill cap is low, for hardcore progress it mostly requires forcing yourself to grind gear and refuse the temptation to progress without good enough gear, always having an escape plan, and above all else a strong stomach for repetition.



    To be ''world first'' in kripparian's case is was all about exploiting (leveling and avoiding elites). And i do'nt hold it against him, beacause it's just not a challenge worth having a ''race for world first'' therefore playing fair is irrelevent
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    Moohh 2012-06-19 22:23:34 UTC — But yeah ofc, gratz to him, even with all the shady parts, it is still a nice accomplishment.
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    Moohh 2012-06-19 22:22:24 UTC — I have to agree with this whole ego chat. He defiantly is some of an egocentric person... I'm not just hating on the person... I watched the stream quite a while, but couldn't stand his personality... And he always likes to play in the more gray side of the line between legit and exploit.

    I remember that I used to watch some of his videos as a hunter and followed some of his logs as he does comes up with nice numbers. But on ICC progress he had Deathbringer's Will normal version, but the first week of heroics he updated to the heroic, even tho many other melee clases got **** trinkets... Maybe things like these is on of the reasons why US doesn't get WF in WoW, this was actually pointed out by a US raider in some podcast which I can't remember the name.
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    Thesol 2012-06-19 20:12:49 UTC — https://twitter.com/Bashiok/status/215136718981046274



    ?@Bashiok:

    My apologies Kripp and Krippi, looks like you were 1st HC Inferno clear. (my spreadsheet deciphering isn't what it used to be) Congrats!



    GZ!
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    Falx 2012-06-19 19:48:35 UTC — I agree with Zemme on that part. Have been following most of the "interesting" streams and he does seem to play that way. Sorry in advance if I offended another Kripparrian fan boy. This does not mean I hate the guy.